'That is what optional means': Foreman surprised when a single employee refuses to work unpaid overtime

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    'The word came down that we were going to have to work 10 hour days' ABB ABB ABB ABB ABB ABB 357911 13 15 12 6 8 10 12 14 16 18
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    Optional overtime? M I just remembered a story from my past that may fit the spirit of this sub.
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    I was working for an electrical company on a movie theatre project. It was super fun with lots of interesting electrical design elements and challenges. Even installing those little lights on the stairs was fun.
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    The company I worked for on the whole was pretty good. they were a medium sized union company run by a decent guy. The problem was that they made a few mistakes on little things like bidding contracts and planning ahead on work.
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    The fallout on the workers was we would either have too much work or no work while they hustled up new jobs or as in this case a really tight budget because they didn't realize that a theatre is a wee bit more intricate than an office building.
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    So onto the compliance, we were working away and struggling to make the completion date. The word came down that we were going to have to work 10 hour days to make it. No problem, I could use the extra bucks.
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    Them: "Sorry, we bid too tight we can't afford overtime pay. You just work the extra two hours at regular time." Me: "Wait? No overtime pay? Umm... that's not in the contract."
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    Them: "Well.... no but... as long as you all agree it will be fine. And it is completely optional." Me: "Oh well then, that's great as long as it's optional then I can opt out. I do really like working for you guys and appreciate that it's optional."
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    Them: "Are you sure? All the other guys are doing it." Me: "That is what optional means and it's great that with their help you should make schedule."
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    So at my regular ending time I would clean up as usual and then head for home. I got a lot of attitude from my some of my coworkers (sad) but a lot of respect from others.
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    My foreman had to be very careful about how they treated me but the two things that stand out were. One, I was told that it looked bad for the other guys that I would be seen sitting down at the end day (after cleaning up material, washing up, and changing boots I would wait for the clock out). So now I had to just work to the end time and leave stuff out for others to clean up.
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    The other slightly retaliatory action was the funniest. The project manager sent down some nice company hats for all our hard work and sacrifice. Guess who didn't get one?
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    [deleted] they have money to spend on hats but cannot pay their guys. Yikes. good on you for standing up to the social pressure.
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    TexasYankee212 I am surprised a union rep did not show up about the no overtime. It is not the fault of the electricians that the company did a poor job of bidding the job. The company should have a talk with the people who made the bid amount, not make the electricians pay for the bidders poor performance.
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    IttHertzWhenIP I'll never understand why some people will give you for not letting your boss take advantage of you.
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    UsernameTaken17... Letting the company off the hook for not paying the contracted overtime rate set a lousy and dangerous precedent.
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    Bergenia1 A hat with a company logo is in no way a bonus. It's company workers being used as a marketing tool. A bonus would be something selected for the workers to enjoy, preferably cash.
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    [deleted] The funny thing is this "optional" policy didn't cover their at all. You can't agree to let someone else break the law. Not paying overtime to non- exempt employees is illegal whether they agree to it or not.
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    Tymanthius I wouldn't consider the hats - retaliatory after all it was a (crappy) thank you for working unpaid. You didn't. But you were smarter than those guys who got hats.

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